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This is just mesmerizing!

Post by Marcus Miller » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:55 pm

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Re: This is just mesmerizing!

Post by Gregory Bogosian » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:25 am

This is a great video for the S46 TRACON controllers. Really helps to get that real world feel to your comms.
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Re: This is just mesmerizing!

Post by Warren Huckaby » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:16 pm

I love watching it.. it was great to hear the handover briefing also.. TOTALLY AWESOME!!! :teach:

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Re: This is just mesmerizing!

Post by Dan Everette » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:50 pm

Bumping this as it's still very relevant (and cool to watch).

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Re: This is just mesmerizing!

Post by Peter Armstrong » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:35 am

The only problem I have with this, and other types of real world examples is – the APP controllers only have to manage approaches to their single airport, and sometimes as the Final APP controller!. They do not have to handle all approaches/departures/VFR/IFR and pattern works for all airports in their Tracon. They do not have to handle DEL/GND/TWR/DEP concurrent with their APP duties

Don't get me wrong - I also think that this is amazing and mesmerizing and I often watch it so that I can learn from it.
Happy controlling/flying :beer:
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Re: This is just mesmerizing!

Post by Peter Armstrong » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:18 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-TPiM6YTI

OK – this is the UK London Heathrow (EGLL)

Notice the differences (UK v USA):-
• Initial contact = reduce speed. This is a good strategy to maintain complete balance throughout the Tracon (USA term).
• The London Control (CTR) is placing the arrivals into a hold N/E
• Absence of a PTAC
• The “creeping” vectoring techniques – not much direct turns onto base leg
• The initial contact also verifies the distance from touchdown and RWY in use
• The final turn to ILS varies (20 degs – 30degs)
• Once established – reduce speed again – then hand-off to TWR at same point nearly every time
• The final reduction in speed is qualified by e.g., 160k – maintain 4 dme
• Real World APP controller only handling approaches from North/South
Also, they use the MLS

I enjoy watching and listening to these professionals
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